On July 26, 2023, Daniel Larson Curator, a YouTuber dedicated to preserving Daniel Larson’s content and incidents, uploaded an interview with an unnamed former caretaker of Daniel. This caretaker provided a detailed account of his time living with Daniel from the fall of 2019 until the spring of 2020, sharing insights into Daniel’s behavior and the challenges faced during his stay. However, many community members believe that this supposed caretaker might actually be a troll, as there have been numerous instances of people trying to impersonate important figures in Daniel’s life.
This caretaker appears to have been providing housing for Daniel when he was living with Ryan, whom Daniel later accused of harassment. Interestingly, Ryan still appears to be living with this caretaker, according to him.
Daniel’s (alleged) former caretaker provided further insight into the dynamic between Daniel and Ryan, claiming that both individuals tend to be groomers. However, he described Daniel as being more “alpha” compared to Ryan. He also alleged having caught Daniel trying to sneak into Ryan’s room at night on multiple occasions. These statements suggest that Daniel might have lied about being sexually abused by Ryan, making the opposite case seem quite plausible.
The Caretaker Call
The caretaker mentioned being unaware of Daniel’s TikTok fame until seeing a video the previous night. Daniel had moved into the caretaker’s home after being kicked out of his previous host home due to significant property damage, including headbutting and kicking walls. It was believed that Daniel would do better with a male provider. Despite the caretaker’s efforts to provide support and therapy, Daniel’s behavior became increasingly problematic. They highlighted the difficulties in managing Daniel, who often refused medication and therapy, focusing instead on his belief in his imminent fame.
He also recounted several incidents, including Daniel’s attempts to groom other individuals in the home, which led to the installation of security cameras. There was a particularly severe incident where Daniel was arrested for assaulting a roommate, during which the caretaker sustained a significant injury from Daniel. He also mentioned an emotionally disturbing incident where Daniel was found attempting to engage (or having just finished engaging) in inappropriate behavior with the caretaker’s cat.
The caretaker also described the absolutely vile conditions of Daniel’s room, finding various items, such as broken drumsticks, multiple phone cords and a barbie doll, covered in feces. Daniel’s personal hygiene was notably poor, with infrequent showers despite his regular running activities. Daniel’s aggressive behavior often necessitated physical restraint, and there were multiple occasions where the police had to be called. One particularly frightening incident involved Daniel attempting to grab a kitchen knife and threatening to kill the caretaker.
The caretaker expressed frustration with the perception that the system had failed Daniel, asserting that Colorado provides substantial support for individuals with disabilities. Despite this, Daniel’s behavior remained unmanageable, partially blaming Bob, whom he called “a pleasant person” but who didn’t know how to deal with a mentally ill person. The call concluded by emphasizing the severe challenges in managing Daniel’s behavior and the emotional toll it took on everyone involved. The detailed account provided a comprehensive look into the difficulties faced while caring for Daniel. (Again, there is currently no proof whether this caretaker was real or a troll.)
Transcript by: daniellarson.wiki
Caretaker: Daniel um.. he moved in fall of 2019, and he was kicked out spring of 2020
Caretaker: Uh.. I didn’t even know that he was like, TikTok quote-unquote “famous” until last night uh.. I saw a random TikTok video with him in it, and I was like, “what the hell?”
Caretaker: He came to my house, because from what I understand, the last host home kicked him out because of just, mass amounts of property damage. Uh, just like headbutting the walls, kicking the walls, um.. I was told that he just doesn’t do well with females, and that with a male provider he would be much better
Caretaker: Uh.. I probably had a good month and a half, two months, and then just hell broke loose. It’s that the first couple months, we call that a grace period, when they kind of get settled in, they’re like excited to stay with the new family, whatever. Um- but yeah I mean it was absolutely terrible. *laughter*
Caretaker: Um, kind of just putting a background first here before we get into the, the good shit, um.. so what else? Also, it’s considered person centered services, it’s different when they’re an adult, um, you do not have the ability to, like, take their human rights away. So if he does not wanna take his meds, doesn’t have to take them. If he’s his own guardian, which he was.
Caretaker: Um.. if he wants therapy, he has the right to have it, you can refuse employment, you can refuse it’s.. it’s difficult, so like when you’re working with an individual like Daniel who kind of has this delusional mindset of that, you know, he’s gonna be famous, all these people love him, he’s a movie star, a singer, he’s more focused on that and just throws away all of the opportunities that are presented to him to help his mental health.
Caretaker: Um, and Bob, yeah, and Bob, he enabled that.
Curator: Oh, so did you get to meet Bob?
Caretaker: Yeah, he came over to the house multiple times. Honestly, like, as a person Bob’s great, at least when I worked with him, um.. he’s very pleasant, and obviously he cared about Daniel’s safety, um.. but he had absolutely no idea how to work with someone with a disability.
Caretaker: I’m still trying to get, like I said, I just discovered this last night, so I’m still kind of watching all the videos and the documentaries and updates on Daniel, which has been extremely interesting to see, um.. but I mean, yeah, like, in the home, I- I advocated for him to get SOB(?) therapy, which is uh, therapy for individuals who engage in, like, grooming. Potential, like, pedophiles or people that have, like, really bad sexual boundaries.
Caretaker: Um, I can tell you just with living with me, uh.. he was trying to groom all of my other individuals, who are much less functioning than him. He kept, um, trying- grooming is just, sorry, grooming is like uh, you know, manipulating them into, like, favors. Like, giving them things to get things in return. Um.. he was doing that a lot, um, like sexually grooming people. Um.. bribing them.
Caretaker: Um, so this- I was able to get cameras installed in the home, which is a very, VERY difficult restriction to get in the state, but because of Daniel’s behaviours, I- you know, I was able to get it through.
Caretaker: I also saw there was an incident, with like, a toothbrush? Um, that honestly doesn’t surprise me, so uh, when he got kicked out of my house, uh, he basically was arrested at my house, um.. for assaulting his roommate. Um.. I’d like, restrain him and hold him, hold him down on my front porch until the police got there, cause he kept trying to bite me.
Caretaker: Yeah I have like, a massive scar on my, uh, left forearm from him *laughter* But as far as like, the toothbrush thing goes, uh when I had to clean his room out, um, I had found one of my used drumsticks, that was all splintered, and it was covered in shit. Um.. there were multiple phone cords that were also covered in shit, um.. he had a Barbie doll that was covered in shit. So that- yeah, i mean, he- he’s a very sexualized individual *laughter*
Caretaker: I’ve taken care of so many individuals, like physical- like physically aggressive individuals, extremely, like, emotionally damaged individuals, low functioning, high functioning, um, they all to some extent have some motivation to, like, do better for themselves. Daniel is the only one that didn’t. Like, everyone was a liar, everyone was against him.
Curator: Do you know about one of Daniel’s old roommates, Ryan? Daniel claims he was sexually assaulted by him.
Caretaker: I- I know him very well, um.. do you know.. so Ryan lives with me still. Yes, I’ve had Ryan from the start. Ryan has some.. similar sexual behaviors to Daniel. Ryan isn’t quite as high functioning and he doesn’t understand his actions as much. Typically, Ryan will groom people, but Daniel kind of being more alpha in the sense that he is a little, you know, his IQ is a bit higher, he knows, you know- Daniel would groom HIM instead, and yeah.
Caretaker: That was one of the- that was one of the individuals that I was talking about earlier, you know, that he kept grooming in the household.
Caretaker: Um.. I mean there are multiple times where I would wake up in the middle of the night cause my cameras would go off and Daniel would try to sneak into Ryans room
Caretaker: Yeah i-it went back and forth but with no doubt in my mind, Daniel kind of controlled that situation.
Curator: So was he delusional about his fame when he lived with you?
Caretaker: Yeah! Yeah, I mean, he always used the term “his fans”, like oh, “my fans need to know what I’m doing”, or “my fans are waiting for me”, um.. thats why he refused to go in, like, day programs. They’re kind of like a day rehabilitation center. Um, he- he didn’t wanna engage in any of that, because he was too devoted to, you know, his fans.
Caretaker: He did smell absolutely terrible. He would, never shower, ever. Um, and when he lived with me, uh, he was really big into running. He would run 10 miles a day, uh, he used to like 5K races and other stuff like that. He would, he would run like 10 miles and then just refuse to take a shower and all I could smell was, just, sweat throughout my house.
Caretaker: Yeah, I think when he lived with me he maybe had taken three or four showers? And that was over the course of, like I said, maybe eight months. Um.. we are certified, it’s called NVCI, Non Violent Crisis Intervention,[1] um basically we can go hands on with an individual, like if they need to be restrained. Some agencies, they’re hands off. I don’t know how that would ever work with Daniel.
Caretaker: Um, but I mean, there were some weeks where I was restraining him multiple times a day, and I’d restrain him because he was hurting himself. He would bash his head into the wall so much. Yeah, just bleeding from his face. I mean, one time I took him to the hospital, he was doing it so hard and he literally started bleeding from, like, one of his eyelids.
Curator: Other than when he bit your arm, was there any incidents where you had to call the police on him?
Caretaker: I try not to call the cops in my home. Some providers they basically have 911 on speed dial. Um.. I only call, like, when it’s truly out of my control. Um.. I think I only called the cops on him twice. Um.. most of the time it was truly like, uh, like for example he was obsessed with mac n’ cheese. If we no longer had mac n’ cheese and I had to make him something else, it’d become extremely escalated and just start like, kicking over and over and over again, holes in all the walls, um, that’s kind of the farthest extent it came.
Caretaker: Sometimes he was like, he’d be mad at me, again for any, like, the most pointless things, like it’s- anything that’s just an inconvenience to him, he would get frustrated, um. I mean, yeah, like every day, just looked like he would get frustrated, i would have to restrain him, then he’d get pissed, and like, he’d run away for a couple hours, go for a run, come back, then he’d spend the night in his room. Then the next day we wake up and everything seemed like, you know, he’d act like nothing happened.
Caretaker: And then later that night, it’d happen again, um, and I guess one time he went ballistic, uh.. hit his head on the wall. He took one of my kitchen chairs, threw it across the room at a, uh, another roommate. Um.. as I was trying to grab him, to kind of just protect myself and everyone else around him, and himself, um.. i remember he went to- he tried grabbing one of the kitchen knives, um.. and that was pretty scary.
Caretaker: Um.. I had to like hold him on the ground, because he kept saying he was gonna kill me. Um.. and then shortly after that he had a sharps restriction, so I was not allowed to have any sharp- I couldn’t have knives, I couldn’t even have forks out in the open, everything had to be locked in my house. You know, I guess- I guess I just kind of like wanted to silence all, like, the people out there. It’s like, “you shouldn’t judge him”, like, “our systems so broken”, “we need to help these people”.
Caretaker: it’s like, there’s issues in the system, but like Colorado specifically, as I- I would say it’s the leading state as far of taking care of individuals disabilities, the services offered in Colorado are far better than any other state. So it’s like, for some of these people saying the system failed him, that’s.. no, and it’s – it’s very, like, I work with so many individuals, it’s so hard to get to the point where Daniel is.
Caretaker: I mean actually one big incident, I- I’ve said quite a bit of them already. I don’t know if I said this, um, the biggest incident that I had with him that really emotional, just, enraged me, um.. I have a three-legged cat. At the time, it was maybe, two years old, and Dan was there, um, he tried having sex with my cat. Yeah, he, um.. his roommate reported to me- yeah, so um.. his roommate walked in his room, yeah, and luckily the roommate loves my cat, and like, actually takes care of him.
Caretaker: Um.. so when he saw that, he freaked out, ran in my room, got me, I went in there, Daniel was like, putting on his clothes and like, the cat was there. So like, I mean, I didn’t see it happen, but I would have no reason- his roommate would have no reason to make that type of allegation being how that cat was in his room, which it shouldn’t have been.
Caretaker: Because how he’s putting clothes on, I mean, I’d have to it was, you know, that’s what happened. Yeah like, at my house, the rule was, I didn’t want my cat in either of their rooms.
[CALL ENDS]
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